Runcorn resident campaigns for dogs to be kept on leads on canal towpaths

Runcorn and Widnes World: Alan Jones with the swans Alan Jones with the swans

RESIDENTS say 12 swans have been savaged by dogs on the Bridgewater Canal in Runcorn.

Campaigners are now calling for signs to be erected asking owners to keep dogs on leads near the waterway.

Retired chauffeur Alan Jones, aged 69, is now currently trying to protect two swans and their seven cygnets.

He says they are constantly being chased, harrassed and attacked by dogs.

Alan, from Seaford Close, near Windmill Hill, said: “Swans have nested here for 50 years but this problem has got worse over the past 18 months.

“We have lost 12 swans. They have been killed by dogs.

“When these houses were first built there were signs saying dogs must be kept on leads but they have been removed.”

He said he constantly sees dogs chasing swans, children throwing balls at the birds and youths on motorbikes riding along the towpath.

Mr Jones said:”There used to be a farmhouse and the farmer put a slope in for horses to drink. The swans have used that area since then to build their home.

“Owners wonder why the male swan goes for their dogs. He is only trying to protect his young.”

Mike Webb, Bridgewater Canal manager at Peel, who owns the waterway, said: ”We are aware of the swan nest in the area of the Bridgewater Canal in Runcorn.

“Unfortunately the swan nest is not on the towpath side of the canal where we are landowners and therefore we cannot take any action with regards to fencing or signage."

 

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9:17am Wed 4 Jun 14

Runcorn business owner says...

The swans are just as much at fault here, if not more.

I always put my dogs back on their lead when walking them past the swans. However, I've lost count of the amount of times the swans take an aggressive stance – actually walking towards the dogs and walkers, trying to start a fight.

If they weren't so aggressive and simply got into the water when they saw people walking past, they wouldn't get attacked by dogs belonging to the idiots leaving them off their leads.
The swans are just as much at fault here, if not more. I always put my dogs back on their lead when walking them past the swans. However, I've lost count of the amount of times the swans take an aggressive stance – actually walking towards the dogs and walkers, trying to start a fight. If they weren't so aggressive and simply got into the water when they saw people walking past, they wouldn't get attacked by dogs belonging to the idiots leaving them off their leads. Runcorn business owner
  • Score: -9

11:08am Thu 5 Jun 14

DWTyke says...

Nonsense! The Swans are simply doing what comes naturally to them and defending their territory and their young. They are wild animals and should not be expected to act in any other way. I can't tell whether or not you are simply being arrogant in assuming wild animals should suddenly change their nature simply to suit you or you are trying to get a rise. Either way, it's worked!
Maybe it would be better if dogs were kept on their leads at all times and only allowed to run free in fenced off, designated areas. Keep your dogs on the lead and avoid wild animals. It's simple. If I can do it, then why can't you?
Personally, I have had no problems with my own dogs and the swans in question. However, I have had plenty of problems with other dog owners who allow their pets to run free and out of control. Most of whom don't even seem to be aware that their little darlings are in fact yappy, aggressive thugs. My dogs, being dogs, don't understand the concept of 'He's just playing' when a snarling fur ball gets in their faces. It doesn't matter to them that they are wearing a pretty coat and have been expensively groomed. They have no concept of cute. All they see is a threat.
Were I not a responsible dog owner who cares more about the welfare of these peoples dogs than they obviously do, I might let my own dogs off the lead and let nature take its course. That's exactly what these people are doing. In my experience, many people who believe they have absolute recall and control over their dogs, are often deluded. Sadly, my dogs have the scars to prove it.
Nonsense! The Swans are simply doing what comes naturally to them and defending their territory and their young. They are wild animals and should not be expected to act in any other way. I can't tell whether or not you are simply being arrogant in assuming wild animals should suddenly change their nature simply to suit you or you are trying to get a rise. Either way, it's worked! Maybe it would be better if dogs were kept on their leads at all times and only allowed to run free in fenced off, designated areas. Keep your dogs on the lead and avoid wild animals. It's simple. If I can do it, then why can't you? Personally, I have had no problems with my own dogs and the swans in question. However, I have had plenty of problems with other dog owners who allow their pets to run free and out of control. Most of whom don't even seem to be aware that their little darlings are in fact yappy, aggressive thugs. My dogs, being dogs, don't understand the concept of 'He's just playing' when a snarling fur ball gets in their faces. It doesn't matter to them that they are wearing a pretty coat and have been expensively groomed. They have no concept of cute. All they see is a threat. Were I not a responsible dog owner who cares more about the welfare of these peoples dogs than they obviously do, I might let my own dogs off the lead and let nature take its course. That's exactly what these people are doing. In my experience, many people who believe they have absolute recall and control over their dogs, are often deluded. Sadly, my dogs have the scars to prove it. DWTyke
  • Score: -6

11:09am Thu 5 Jun 14

DWTyke says...

Good for Alan Jones. Keep up the good work!
Good for Alan Jones. Keep up the good work! DWTyke
  • Score: -13

8:56pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Resident. says...

If the swans were left to live on the canal , and weren't being tempted onto the public cycle/ footpath by irresponsible residents who think of them as their own pets. There would be no problem and the swans could live a more natural life. I am sure white bread is not the best diet for wild birds..
If the swans were left to live on the canal , and weren't being tempted onto the public cycle/ footpath by irresponsible residents who think of them as their own pets. There would be no problem and the swans could live a more natural life. I am sure white bread is not the best diet for wild birds.. Resident.
  • Score: 22

1:27pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Stebaker says...

This article is absolute nonsense.
Firstly I would say most of the local residence are proud and happy to have swans on our canal, feeding them (in the water) when taking dog or kids out to see them and would like to keep it that way. However the picture that has been pour triad here is unfounded.

Have 12 swans been killed? Really 12, that must mean the bank side must be Covered with dead carcasses, of these animals, yet I have not seen one, nor seen any injured and have never heard any residents say they have found one, please provide the evidence for this.
We have a few fox families in the area which love to eat rabbit, duck and birds, which causes some ducks to have Injured wings from close fox encounters. Foxes hunt at night when the ducks are not on full guard, during the day the alert ducks can easily avoid dogs.

Reports of the swans being chased, I have also not seen. Undoubtedly there will be some dogs that would love to chase them but the owners walking these dogs no best and already have there dogs on a lead.
As for kids chasing them, most of the kids are scared of these two swans, and the swans do a good job of protecting themselves, this is a nice area and the kids I know to live here all appear to be relatively good kids, with responsible parents.

Now depending on how I feel that day will depend if I have my dog on a lead. I have trained him (going in for his kennel club silver award in couple of weeks) to ignore the ducks and swans and he heels when we walk past. So I would understand dog walkers not needing to have a lead at all times. Mr Jones should be understanding with this, as he walks his cat (yes cat) lead free and appears to have trained it not to attack ducks. It is down to being a responsible owner.

The real problem here is the unwitting actions of residents who view the swans as pets, Mr Jones will go to the extent of chasing other swans away and even the occasional goose to protect "his swans". He will encourage them on to the bank side and footpath, leaving dog bowl dishes out for them.

The swans actual nest is 100yards further down towards Phoenix park yet they attend the backside every morning and evening In time for the food put out for them.
This has made the swans fearless towards humans and they will raise there defences with people simply walking past, and attack (they like to attack when your back is to them). Fortunately the swans are familiar with me and my dog, but see my young 4year old nephew, not bothering them as a target.

If signs where to be put up I would gladly obey, as I have an 8m extendible lead. But I would then have to insist signs are erected to state "no swans are to be fed on the bank side"

Protect our swans, dogs and children!
This article is absolute nonsense. Firstly I would say most of the local residence are proud and happy to have swans on our canal, feeding them (in the water) when taking dog or kids out to see them and would like to keep it that way. However the picture that has been pour triad here is unfounded. Have 12 swans been killed? Really 12, that must mean the bank side must be Covered with dead carcasses, of these animals, yet I have not seen one, nor seen any injured and have never heard any residents say they have found one, please provide the evidence for this. We have a few fox families in the area which love to eat rabbit, duck and birds, which causes some ducks to have Injured wings from close fox encounters. Foxes hunt at night when the ducks are not on full guard, during the day the alert ducks can easily avoid dogs. Reports of the swans being chased, I have also not seen. Undoubtedly there will be some dogs that would love to chase them but the owners walking these dogs no best and already have there dogs on a lead. As for kids chasing them, most of the kids are scared of these two swans, and the swans do a good job of protecting themselves, this is a nice area and the kids I know to live here all appear to be relatively good kids, with responsible parents. Now depending on how I feel that day will depend if I have my dog on a lead. I have trained him (going in for his kennel club silver award in couple of weeks) to ignore the ducks and swans and he heels when we walk past. So I would understand dog walkers not needing to have a lead at all times. Mr Jones should be understanding with this, as he walks his cat (yes cat) lead free and appears to have trained it not to attack ducks. It is down to being a responsible owner. The real problem here is the unwitting actions of residents who view the swans as pets, Mr Jones will go to the extent of chasing other swans away and even the occasional goose to protect "his swans". He will encourage them on to the bank side and footpath, leaving dog bowl dishes out for them. The swans actual nest is 100yards further down towards Phoenix park yet they attend the backside every morning and evening In time for the food put out for them. This has made the swans fearless towards humans and they will raise there defences with people simply walking past, and attack (they like to attack when your back is to them). Fortunately the swans are familiar with me and my dog, but see my young 4year old nephew, not bothering them as a target. If signs where to be put up I would gladly obey, as I have an 8m extendible lead. But I would then have to insist signs are erected to state "no swans are to be fed on the bank side" Protect our swans, dogs and children! Stebaker
  • Score: 22

5:33pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Resident. says...

It's a pity Mr Jones has not trained his cat to not attack dogs as mine and several other dogs have been attacked by his cat , whilst on their leads I might add.
Maybe a sign to keep cats under control can be added to the growing list of signs needed !
It's a pity Mr Jones has not trained his cat to not attack dogs as mine and several other dogs have been attacked by his cat , whilst on their leads I might add. Maybe a sign to keep cats under control can be added to the growing list of signs needed ! Resident.
  • Score: 19

6:15pm Sun 8 Jun 14

Swans reach says...

I am a resident of the exact same area as Mr jones and I can honestly say I've never seen any dogs chasing the swans or ducks. Most owners of dogs know that the swans are very aggressive and every time you walk past them the male swan swims over and hisses to warn Anyone or any animal coming anywhere near the embankment .BUT the bigger problem is that Mr jones who feeds the swans with bread and entices them on the footpath which is next to his property and a public pathway will create a much bigger problem eventually .. What Mr jones doesn't realise is that the swans will attack a child walking past one day or a adult then all the residents and swans will lose out because they will have to moved away from this area because as in an earlier comment the swans are getting more confident coming on the public pathway.. Let the nature look after itself !! Just as it always has and leave them to look after their young themselves without any human intervention. Let everyone enjoy them and the canal and enjoy the peaceful surrounding without trying to control the nature and the people who want to go about their business walking cycling or walking their dogs.
I am a resident of the exact same area as Mr jones and I can honestly say I've never seen any dogs chasing the swans or ducks. Most owners of dogs know that the swans are very aggressive and every time you walk past them the male swan swims over and hisses to warn Anyone or any animal coming anywhere near the embankment .BUT the bigger problem is that Mr jones who feeds the swans with bread and entices them on the footpath which is next to his property and a public pathway will create a much bigger problem eventually .. What Mr jones doesn't realise is that the swans will attack a child walking past one day or a adult then all the residents and swans will lose out because they will have to moved away from this area because as in an earlier comment the swans are getting more confident coming on the public pathway.. Let the nature look after itself !! Just as it always has and leave them to look after their young themselves without any human intervention. Let everyone enjoy them and the canal and enjoy the peaceful surrounding without trying to control the nature and the people who want to go about their business walking cycling or walking their dogs. Swans reach
  • Score: 16

7:50pm Sun 8 Jun 14

jim56776 says...

mr jones " " only wants dogs on leads so he can walk his cat in peace. and he feeds the swans breakfast dinner and tea and super with his cat "scruffy"".every day..chasing other birds away etc , no dogs or kids have ever killed a swan there mr jones will kill them feeding the swans pizzas , pies and scraps ,he brings the swans onto the path for there fast food so people have to walk around the long way. mr jones needs chasing
mr jones " " only wants dogs on leads so he can walk his cat in peace. and he feeds the swans breakfast dinner and tea and super with his cat "scruffy"".every day..chasing other birds away etc , no dogs or kids have ever killed a swan there mr jones will kill them feeding the swans pizzas , pies and scraps ,he brings the swans onto the path for there fast food so people have to walk around the long way. mr jones needs chasing jim56776
  • Score: 19

9:05pm Sun 8 Jun 14

Norton Cross says...

Mr Jones is the main problem.He treats all the ducks,swans and Canada Geese as his pets.They are wild birds and shouldn't be encouraged to hang around his house,fouling and blocking the footpath.

As for some of his comments about the number of dead swans and dogs chasing them I have grave doubts about any of them.

Let nature take its course Mr Jones and live your own life not theirs.
Mr Jones is the main problem.He treats all the ducks,swans and Canada Geese as his pets.They are wild birds and shouldn't be encouraged to hang around his house,fouling and blocking the footpath. As for some of his comments about the number of dead swans and dogs chasing them I have grave doubts about any of them. Let nature take its course Mr Jones and live your own life not theirs. Norton Cross
  • Score: 20

9:05pm Sun 8 Jun 14

KTMKTM says...

I have just been VERBALLY ABUSED BY MR JONES who was very aggresive towards me, in fact he brought me to tears, and he really was in my personal space. I pass this way twice a day, with my dog who I never let off leash until I am off the canel path, and away from the ducks and swans. I consider myself a very considerate dog owner. when the swans come close I simple walk or sometimes run past with my little dog, who gets excited when they come flappling and hissing but as my dog is on a lead there is no chance of any contact between the animals. I understand the fact that the swans are protecting there young and I pass quickly as not to aggravate them. But to be verbally abused by this man is not nice, I am a 37 year old woman who has been brought to tears by this bully, I think it is a disgrace, my dog has also been attacked by this mans cat, my dog was actually screaming and he had cuts to his ears. Mr Jones is nothing but a BULLY, there has been no dead swans around here, he has lied, he just hates dogs. I am not looking forward to my walk in the morning. Even the police are sick of hearing his name.
I have just been VERBALLY ABUSED BY MR JONES who was very aggresive towards me, in fact he brought me to tears, and he really was in my personal space. I pass this way twice a day, with my dog who I never let off leash until I am off the canel path, and away from the ducks and swans. I consider myself a very considerate dog owner. when the swans come close I simple walk or sometimes run past with my little dog, who gets excited when they come flappling and hissing but as my dog is on a lead there is no chance of any contact between the animals. I understand the fact that the swans are protecting there young and I pass quickly as not to aggravate them. But to be verbally abused by this man is not nice, I am a 37 year old woman who has been brought to tears by this bully, I think it is a disgrace, my dog has also been attacked by this mans cat, my dog was actually screaming and he had cuts to his ears. Mr Jones is nothing but a BULLY, there has been no dead swans around here, he has lied, he just hates dogs. I am not looking forward to my walk in the morning. Even the police are sick of hearing his name. KTMKTM
  • Score: 19

11:19pm Sun 8 Jun 14

Swans reach says...

I have been threatened and verbally abused by Mr jones too. Reading all these comments has made me realise it isn't just me and my family that have this problem (I actually changed my walk so I never go past his house) being a woman out on my own sometimes with a small dog (which is always on the lead) i felt very intimidated and scared as I walked past him.Because my dog was sniffing near the bank he said he would kick my dog if it went anywhere near his property. I didn't know which house he lived in and he started swearing and threatening to ring the police to me. I've never met anybody who has ever been that aggressive before when out walking my little border terrier. Sometimes I saw this man in the fields and I thought he was strange walking on his own and I used to worry why this man was hanging around bushes, then after sometime I realised he was walking his animal (his cat) I think he may think he's doing good for the nature by policing the canal and voicing his opinion on what everyone around him should and shouldn't do. He really doesn't see his behaviour as any problem but Billy goats gruff comes to mind when I get to the bridge near the poo bin and it scared me in the nursery rhyme and Mr jones is a modern version of this tale !!!
I have been threatened and verbally abused by Mr jones too. Reading all these comments has made me realise it isn't just me and my family that have this problem (I actually changed my walk so I never go past his house) being a woman out on my own sometimes with a small dog (which is always on the lead) i felt very intimidated and scared as I walked past him.Because my dog was sniffing near the bank he said he would kick my dog if it went anywhere near his property. I didn't know which house he lived in and he started swearing and threatening to ring the police to me. I've never met anybody who has ever been that aggressive before when out walking my little border terrier. Sometimes I saw this man in the fields and I thought he was strange walking on his own and I used to worry why this man was hanging around bushes, then after sometime I realised he was walking his animal (his cat) I think he may think he's doing good for the nature by policing the canal and voicing his opinion on what everyone around him should and shouldn't do. He really doesn't see his behaviour as any problem but Billy goats gruff comes to mind when I get to the bridge near the poo bin and it scared me in the nursery rhyme and Mr jones is a modern version of this tale !!! Swans reach
  • Score: 22

11:43pm Sun 8 Jun 14

The fisher man says...

I ve enjoyed living in the area . There is Nothing better after a hard day at work to go for a nice walk I love all the wildlife , the canal the walks with my dogs . It's lovely to see the ducks and the swans on your doorstep . But being abused and threatened by this person is wrong . He is bringing the swans into contact with people on the path outside his house . I have lived in the area for a number of years and have never seen any dead swans. I walk my dogs everyday . The amount of people who have problems with that area of the canal is unreal . We all know what and who is to blame . I find it a joke that everyone cannot enjoy our surroundings . The swans will be here for years to come as they have been here even before any residents.they don't need humans to feed them they can fend for themselves. Mr jones needs to
Let swans be swans and people to be people!!
I ve enjoyed living in the area . There is Nothing better after a hard day at work to go for a nice walk I love all the wildlife , the canal the walks with my dogs . It's lovely to see the ducks and the swans on your doorstep . But being abused and threatened by this person is wrong . He is bringing the swans into contact with people on the path outside his house . I have lived in the area for a number of years and have never seen any dead swans. I walk my dogs everyday . The amount of people who have problems with that area of the canal is unreal . We all know what and who is to blame . I find it a joke that everyone cannot enjoy our surroundings . The swans will be here for years to come as they have been here even before any residents.they don't need humans to feed them they can fend for themselves. Mr jones needs to Let swans be swans and people to be people!! The fisher man
  • Score: 22

11:55pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Stebaker says...

Seeing all these posts from people being scared of Mr Jones and changing there lives and routines to avoid him is terrible for these people. I have only had one incident with this man, When I had my dog as a pup and training him to ignore the swans, mr jones threatened me and because I ignored him he tried to threaten me again indirectly by saying "I've seen your son walking here too you know"! It took all my will power to walk away from him and say nothing that day. And to this day I tell my son "please be carful around him and if possible just avoid him", BUT WE LIVE HERE TOO WHY SHOULD WE!!! The police, council, RSPB, need to sort this out, I thought it was one old man that didn't like me, not one old man that is dangerous to everyone who crosses him!
Seeing all these posts from people being scared of Mr Jones and changing there lives and routines to avoid him is terrible for these people. I have only had one incident with this man, When I had my dog as a pup and training him to ignore the swans, mr jones threatened me and because I ignored him he tried to threaten me again indirectly by saying "I've seen your son walking here too you know"! It took all my will power to walk away from him and say nothing that day. And to this day I tell my son "please be carful around him and if possible just avoid him", BUT WE LIVE HERE TOO WHY SHOULD WE!!! The police, council, RSPB, need to sort this out, I thought it was one old man that didn't like me, not one old man that is dangerous to everyone who crosses him! Stebaker
  • Score: 14

9:24pm Tue 10 Jun 14

jim56776 says...

mr jones needs a asbo slapped on him not to feed swans not to abuse people
mr jones needs a asbo slapped on him not to feed swans not to abuse people jim56776
  • Score: 12

11:02pm Tue 10 Jun 14

The fisher man says...

The guy leads a very sad life , he needs to keep his views to himself , why should hard working people who live in the area be torchered by this person , this is one persons views . Maybe some fencing around that part of the canal be erected so the swans cannot gain access to the pathway where the bank is low , that would stop him feeding them outside his property . Job done . May be then he ll leave other residents alone . What right has he to demand peoples dogs be on a lead . Our dogs have as much right as the swans to be walked and looked after . I hope you can read all the comments people have left for you me jones ,
The guy leads a very sad life , he needs to keep his views to himself , why should hard working people who live in the area be torchered by this person , this is one persons views . Maybe some fencing around that part of the canal be erected so the swans cannot gain access to the pathway where the bank is low , that would stop him feeding them outside his property . Job done . May be then he ll leave other residents alone . What right has he to demand peoples dogs be on a lead . Our dogs have as much right as the swans to be walked and looked after . I hope you can read all the comments people have left for you me jones , The fisher man
  • Score: 12

11:14pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Swans reach says...

Well the problem is Mr jones is retired and has no life other than feeding the swans. He has become obsessive and like most people when they don't work and have nothing such as family, grandchildren ,hobbies or friends to enrich their lives this type of behaviour can happen .He does get lots of attention calling the police and arguing with people . I feel sorry that he doesn't realise his behaviour offends so many people and stops people from enjoying where they live . We do all live here for the same reasons. Let's hope he awakens and sees how many people he is upsetting and he finds a way to be remembered in his community as a nice caring,helpful and kind individual. I want to thank all of you that have left comments because I now know it wasn't just me, I have gained confidence and strength from all your comments to walk where ever I want with my dog and in the future if I have any abuse I will be the one telephoning the police.
Well the problem is Mr jones is retired and has no life other than feeding the swans. He has become obsessive and like most people when they don't work and have nothing such as family, grandchildren ,hobbies or friends to enrich their lives this type of behaviour can happen .He does get lots of attention calling the police and arguing with people . I feel sorry that he doesn't realise his behaviour offends so many people and stops people from enjoying where they live . We do all live here for the same reasons. Let's hope he awakens and sees how many people he is upsetting and he finds a way to be remembered in his community as a nice caring,helpful and kind individual. I want to thank all of you that have left comments because I now know it wasn't just me, I have gained confidence and strength from all your comments to walk where ever I want with my dog and in the future if I have any abuse I will be the one telephoning the police. Swans reach
  • Score: 11

11:28am Wed 11 Jun 14

Stebaker says...

Last night I walked my dog when back from work at 9pm and right outside Mr Jones house on the bank where the swans, there was a lady feeding the ducks a little further down, there was a boy on a bike with his dad and there dog having fun trying to get past the swans outside his house but all enjoying the ducks and seeing the the chicks with the swans hissing in the background all in all a pleasent evening.
Mr Jones door was open but he was not seen, so maybe it is not the kids, or the dog walkers, or dogs or other people feeding them, maybe it's Mr Jones getting to involved having nothing better to do!
We would understand anyone trying to protect the swans against any abuse, but you do not have to guard these wild animals like they are your own.
Maybe this newspaper article has worked in the opposite way and is attracting more people and dog walkers to the swans to see them.
Oh deer next the campaign for him will be because of all the kids and dog walkers, fishermen and people in general all outside his house making noise wanting to play and see the wild life.
Last night I walked my dog when back from work at 9pm and right outside Mr Jones house on the bank where the swans, there was a lady feeding the ducks a little further down, there was a boy on a bike with his dad and there dog having fun trying to get past the swans outside his house but all enjoying the ducks and seeing the the chicks with the swans hissing in the background all in all a pleasent evening. Mr Jones door was open but he was not seen, so maybe it is not the kids, or the dog walkers, or dogs or other people feeding them, maybe it's Mr Jones getting to involved having nothing better to do! We would understand anyone trying to protect the swans against any abuse, but you do not have to guard these wild animals like they are your own. Maybe this newspaper article has worked in the opposite way and is attracting more people and dog walkers to the swans to see them. Oh deer next the campaign for him will be because of all the kids and dog walkers, fishermen and people in general all outside his house making noise wanting to play and see the wild life. Stebaker
  • Score: 10

2:02pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Canalside says...

this is my first post but I strongly agree with stebaker and the other comments about Mr Jones and his treatment of the swans as pets. my property actually fronts on to the towpath, and Imat home most of the day so I see a lot that happens. the stone slipway where the swans and ducks gather was not built for them, it is what remains of a boat slipway, which lead to some old commercial stone buildings, when were demolished prior to the building of the Parklands development. Those interested have. Look online at ariel photos taken in the 1940s. The bottom line is that Mr Junes does not own the canal or the wild animals that live on it, feeding the birds just encourage the swans to sit outside his house waiting to be fed. the swans are a nuisance, I have seen them attack people walking bye, dogs on leads of not. I understand that the towpath is the responsibility of the canal trust? Not HBC correct me if I'm wrong,? Twelve dead Swans ? When?, last year one of the cig nets was killed on power lines whilst trying to fly away, I very rarely see any children playing on this stretch of the canal, even in the school holidays.. let the swans live naturally and stop harassing people Mr Jones.
this is my first post but I strongly agree with stebaker and the other comments about Mr Jones and his treatment of the swans as pets. my property actually fronts on to the towpath, and Imat home most of the day so I see a lot that happens. the stone slipway where the swans and ducks gather was not built for them, it is what remains of a boat slipway, which lead to some old commercial stone buildings, when were demolished prior to the building of the Parklands development. Those interested have. Look online at ariel photos taken in the 1940s. The bottom line is that Mr Junes does not own the canal or the wild animals that live on it, feeding the birds just encourage the swans to sit outside his house waiting to be fed. the swans are a nuisance, I have seen them attack people walking bye, dogs on leads of not. I understand that the towpath is the responsibility of the canal trust? Not HBC correct me if I'm wrong,? Twelve dead Swans ? When?, last year one of the cig nets was killed on power lines whilst trying to fly away, I very rarely see any children playing on this stretch of the canal, even in the school holidays.. let the swans live naturally and stop harassing people Mr Jones. Canalside
  • Score: 8

4:47pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Resident. says...

Whilst out walking last night Mr Jones approached me and another dog owner who was with his son , by the slipway , and started swearing at us as our dogs were cooling off at the edge of the water . He told us the slipway was for the swans to get in and out of the water , and that he hoped our dogs caught lungworms ... Charming !!
I pulled my phone out and recorded the whole thing, then he went back down to his own house and along with his newly recruited cohort who I think is renting the bungalow two doors down, and they starting shouting and swearing at a few lads who were fishing quietly by the bench on the towpath opposite. The lads had questioned why she was photographing them which is understandable.
Just by coincidence the local PCSO rode past with a Policeman so obviously we stopped them and had an interesting chat about "local issues "
He is fully aware of Mr Jones and mentioned to us about this article and all the interesting feedback ( his words ) and that the police are monitoring the feedback left online to build a picture of the cause of the trouble. The Policeman was very interested in the footage I had just recorded so once he had viewed it he gave us a card and asked us and anyone else who is spoken to by Mr Jones to simply ring 101 as this is a non emergency number and to report every incident as this is how they can move forward with a good case . Calling this number doesn't mean you have to press charges and have Police cars outside your house ..Which no-one wants , but just log the incident as these are all passed to the Estate PCSO .
With regards to the legal aspect of dogs off the lead in public as both of ours were off their leads running around and playing , the policeman had no issue with it and simply commented that we looked like we were just allowing our dogs to play while we enjoyed our surroundings, and shouldn't have to put up with peace being interrupted by someone being so aggressive.
So get your phone out as I do when I pass by and record him being foul mouthed and Ill-tempered and then report it.
I have a feeling something will give soon ..
Whilst out walking last night Mr Jones approached me and another dog owner who was with his son , by the slipway , and started swearing at us as our dogs were cooling off at the edge of the water . He told us the slipway was for the swans to get in and out of the water , and that he hoped our dogs caught lungworms ... Charming !! I pulled my phone out and recorded the whole thing, then he went back down to his own house and along with his newly recruited cohort who I think is renting the bungalow two doors down, and they starting shouting and swearing at a few lads who were fishing quietly by the bench on the towpath opposite. The lads had questioned why she was photographing them which is understandable. Just by coincidence the local PCSO rode past with a Policeman so obviously we stopped them and had an interesting chat about "local issues " He is fully aware of Mr Jones and mentioned to us about this article and all the interesting feedback ( his words ) and that the police are monitoring the feedback left online to build a picture of the cause of the trouble. The Policeman was very interested in the footage I had just recorded so once he had viewed it he gave us a card and asked us and anyone else who is spoken to by Mr Jones to simply ring 101 as this is a non emergency number and to report every incident as this is how they can move forward with a good case . Calling this number doesn't mean you have to press charges and have Police cars outside your house ..Which no-one wants , but just log the incident as these are all passed to the Estate PCSO . With regards to the legal aspect of dogs off the lead in public as both of ours were off their leads running around and playing , the policeman had no issue with it and simply commented that we looked like we were just allowing our dogs to play while we enjoyed our surroundings, and shouldn't have to put up with peace being interrupted by someone being so aggressive. So get your phone out as I do when I pass by and record him being foul mouthed and Ill-tempered and then report it. I have a feeling something will give soon .. Resident.
  • Score: 5

7:39pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Canalside says...

The only thing is make a formal complaint of a verbal assault to the police
The only thing is make a formal complaint of a verbal assault to the police Canalside
  • Score: 4

9:26am Mon 16 Jun 14

Runcorn resident says...

I would like to defend myself on this one and add I am NOT Mr Jones new Recruit! I chose the area as I thought it was a nice and quiet estate and I like nature. The night you are referring to I was in my kitchen when I heard a loud bang on the door. I opened it to find Mr Jones in a state telling me someone had attached the Swans so of course I came out to look at what was going on. I was using my phone and I was on facebook. The two guys fishing across the canal shouted to me and started to have a go at me thinking I was doing whatever so I defended myself. Afterwards I spoke with the young lads who explained they thought I was with Mr. Jones I explained I had nothing to do with Mr Jones! I apologised and the matter was resolved. I will not see any animal or human hurt and I will help anyone that needs it but I will not be accused of being anyone’s new recruit. I have spoke to Mr Jones and said on many of occasions he needs to relax and let other use the canal.
I would like to defend myself on this one and add I am NOT Mr Jones new Recruit! I chose the area as I thought it was a nice and quiet estate and I like nature. The night you are referring to I was in my kitchen when I heard a loud bang on the door. I opened it to find Mr Jones in a state telling me someone had attached the Swans so of course I came out to look at what was going on. I was using my phone and I was on facebook. The two guys fishing across the canal shouted to me and started to have a go at me thinking I was doing whatever so I defended myself. Afterwards I spoke with the young lads who explained they thought I was with Mr. Jones I explained I had nothing to do with Mr Jones! I apologised and the matter was resolved. I will not see any animal or human hurt and I will help anyone that needs it but I will not be accused of being anyone’s new recruit. I have spoke to Mr Jones and said on many of occasions he needs to relax and let other use the canal. Runcorn resident
  • Score: 0

9:27am Mon 16 Jun 14

Runcorn resident says...

Since living on the estate I have never seen anyone/animal attach the wildlife
Since living on the estate I have never seen anyone/animal attach the wildlife Runcorn resident
  • Score: 2

11:29pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Stebaker says...

I believe Runcorn resident, is now aware of the scale of the situation with Mr Jones, and after reading all these posts realises how strongly people feel about the abuse Mr Jones has given many residents. I believe as a new resident it is fair to say they where not aware of the situation until now.
I would think it is in there best interests to remain on friendly terms with her neighbour Mr Jones as they have to live in close proximity to him and if he was to be as aggressive to them as he is to others male and female, then there time as a local resident he could make very unpleasant.
If Mr Jones could understand he is not the only person that would protect the swans and other wildlife he could come to realise we all live here for the same reasons. most residents love the local wildlife and would also protect it from harm. It would also be wise to abide by the swan sanctuary's advice which is to not feed the birds on the canal side but only when they are in the water to discourage the behaviour they currently show, feed them only food suitable for swans, and not regularly as this means in the long run they may not be able to survive in the wild at all as they will not learn to find food themselves.
I believe Runcorn resident, is now aware of the scale of the situation with Mr Jones, and after reading all these posts realises how strongly people feel about the abuse Mr Jones has given many residents. I believe as a new resident it is fair to say they where not aware of the situation until now. I would think it is in there best interests to remain on friendly terms with her neighbour Mr Jones as they have to live in close proximity to him and if he was to be as aggressive to them as he is to others male and female, then there time as a local resident he could make very unpleasant. If Mr Jones could understand he is not the only person that would protect the swans and other wildlife he could come to realise we all live here for the same reasons. most residents love the local wildlife and would also protect it from harm. It would also be wise to abide by the swan sanctuary's advice which is to not feed the birds on the canal side but only when they are in the water to discourage the behaviour they currently show, feed them only food suitable for swans, and not regularly as this means in the long run they may not be able to survive in the wild at all as they will not learn to find food themselves. Stebaker
  • Score: 5

8:46pm Tue 17 Jun 14

The fisher man says...

When I first moved into the area . The police where at me jones house all the time. He calls them for anything and everything . The man is on the phone constantly . It's funny how he and the swans are always the victim . The police need to sort this situation out . out
When I first moved into the area . The police where at me jones house all the time. He calls them for anything and everything . The man is on the phone constantly . It's funny how he and the swans are always the victim . The police need to sort this situation out . out The fisher man
  • Score: 4

8:50pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Swans reach says...

After 3 encounters of foul language and abuse screamed at me by Mr jones I no longer go out on the canal for walks on my own or feed the ducks on the bridge. I only ever go when I have someone with me so I always have a witness. You never know what he will be unhappy about, it's too stressful to have the worry and uncertainty that he is going to come out from behind the bushes and start arguing and screaming about the dogs or where I am walking or what I am feeding the birds. He watches everything , where you walk and everything you do, it makes me uneasy and uncomfortable and I don't like being stalked in this way. It's a shame because I really did move here to enjoy the area and the canal and its on my doorstop but I feel too vunerable with him around. I hope things do change for everyone's sakes including the swans.
After 3 encounters of foul language and abuse screamed at me by Mr jones I no longer go out on the canal for walks on my own or feed the ducks on the bridge. I only ever go when I have someone with me so I always have a witness. You never know what he will be unhappy about, it's too stressful to have the worry and uncertainty that he is going to come out from behind the bushes and start arguing and screaming about the dogs or where I am walking or what I am feeding the birds. He watches everything , where you walk and everything you do, it makes me uneasy and uncomfortable and I don't like being stalked in this way. It's a shame because I really did move here to enjoy the area and the canal and its on my doorstop but I feel too vunerable with him around. I hope things do change for everyone's sakes including the swans. Swans reach
  • Score: 4

8:57pm Tue 17 Jun 14

The fisher man says...

When I first moved into the area . The police where at me jones house all the time. He calls them for anything and everything . The man is on the phone constantly . It's funny how he and the swans are always the victim . The police need to sort this situation out . Before something serious happens to someone . The guy is far to aggressive towards other people . I have spoken to a police officer before and they say they are aware of his behaviour . If so many people are having problems with this man . They are partly to blame for not taking action earlier . I feel for people who have to come into contact with this man.
When I first moved into the area . The police where at me jones house all the time. He calls them for anything and everything . The man is on the phone constantly . It's funny how he and the swans are always the victim . The police need to sort this situation out . Before something serious happens to someone . The guy is far to aggressive towards other people . I have spoken to a police officer before and they say they are aware of his behaviour . If so many people are having problems with this man . They are partly to blame for not taking action earlier . I feel for people who have to come into contact with this man. The fisher man
  • Score: 4

9:17pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Runcorn resident says...

Again I will try and defend myself. I have lived here 4 just 2 and a half weeks. I wanted 2get on with all my neighbours and introduced myself. On the back of that I have been associated with Mr Jones, that I guess is my mistake as I didn't no the man or what he is capable of until several nights ago. I do NOT agree with what he is doing! I will not b accused of being his new recruit cohort. People need 2stop being so narrow minded and accusing me of being the same as him! I am a person who will go out of my way 2help anyone and I will not condone his behaviour! I am now finding myself only after a few weeks of living here not wanting to come home or enjoy the place I chose to live. For the person who thumbed my first comment down are you not as bad 2 judge me the same without even knowing me. 2 slander me on here an accuse me of being his cohort are u not doing the same as mr jones, avin a go at an inocent person!
Again I will try and defend myself. I have lived here 4 just 2 and a half weeks. I wanted 2get on with all my neighbours and introduced myself. On the back of that I have been associated with Mr Jones, that I guess is my mistake as I didn't no the man or what he is capable of until several nights ago. I do NOT agree with what he is doing! I will not b accused of being his new recruit cohort. People need 2stop being so narrow minded and accusing me of being the same as him! I am a person who will go out of my way 2help anyone and I will not condone his behaviour! I am now finding myself only after a few weeks of living here not wanting to come home or enjoy the place I chose to live. For the person who thumbed my first comment down are you not as bad 2 judge me the same without even knowing me. 2 slander me on here an accuse me of being his cohort are u not doing the same as mr jones, avin a go at an inocent person! Runcorn resident
  • Score: 1

12:14am Wed 18 Jun 14

Stebaker says...

Swans reach wrote:
After 3 encounters of foul language and abuse screamed at me by Mr jones I no longer go out on the canal for walks on my own or feed the ducks on the bridge. I only ever go when I have someone with me so I always have a witness. You never know what he will be unhappy about, it's too stressful to have the worry and uncertainty that he is going to come out from behind the bushes and start arguing and screaming about the dogs or where I am walking or what I am feeding the birds. He watches everything , where you walk and everything you do, it makes me uneasy and uncomfortable and I don't like being stalked in this way. It's a shame because I really did move here to enjoy the area and the canal and its on my doorstop but I feel too vunerable with him around. I hope things do change for everyone's sakes including the swans.
I feel really bad for you as it has obviously effected the way you live and decisions you make going for a simple walk.
[quote][p][bold]Swans reach[/bold] wrote: After 3 encounters of foul language and abuse screamed at me by Mr jones I no longer go out on the canal for walks on my own or feed the ducks on the bridge. I only ever go when I have someone with me so I always have a witness. You never know what he will be unhappy about, it's too stressful to have the worry and uncertainty that he is going to come out from behind the bushes and start arguing and screaming about the dogs or where I am walking or what I am feeding the birds. He watches everything , where you walk and everything you do, it makes me uneasy and uncomfortable and I don't like being stalked in this way. It's a shame because I really did move here to enjoy the area and the canal and its on my doorstop but I feel too vunerable with him around. I hope things do change for everyone's sakes including the swans.[/p][/quote]I feel really bad for you as it has obviously effected the way you live and decisions you make going for a simple walk. Stebaker
  • Score: 4

12:55am Wed 18 Jun 14

Stebaker says...

Runcorn resident wrote:
Again I will try and defend myself. I have lived here 4 just 2 and a half weeks. I wanted 2get on with all my neighbours and introduced myself. On the back of that I have been associated with Mr Jones, that I guess is my mistake as I didn't no the man or what he is capable of until several nights ago. I do NOT agree with what he is doing! I will not b accused of being his new recruit cohort. People need 2stop being so narrow minded and accusing me of being the same as him! I am a person who will go out of my way 2help anyone and I will not condone his behaviour! I am now finding myself only after a few weeks of living here not wanting to come home or enjoy the place I chose to live. For the person who thumbed my first comment down are you not as bad 2 judge me the same without even knowing me. 2 slander me on here an accuse me of being his cohort are u not doing the same as mr jones, avin a go at an inocent person!
You should not be feeling uncomfortable coming home to your new house, as you are quite right you have not been the aggressor here that has been Mr jones and I do hope he does realise the stress and upset he and the situation he has made has caused to local residents and yourself indirectly. Hope you do settle in.
[quote][p][bold]Runcorn resident[/bold] wrote: Again I will try and defend myself. I have lived here 4 just 2 and a half weeks. I wanted 2get on with all my neighbours and introduced myself. On the back of that I have been associated with Mr Jones, that I guess is my mistake as I didn't no the man or what he is capable of until several nights ago. I do NOT agree with what he is doing! I will not b accused of being his new recruit cohort. People need 2stop being so narrow minded and accusing me of being the same as him! I am a person who will go out of my way 2help anyone and I will not condone his behaviour! I am now finding myself only after a few weeks of living here not wanting to come home or enjoy the place I chose to live. For the person who thumbed my first comment down are you not as bad 2 judge me the same without even knowing me. 2 slander me on here an accuse me of being his cohort are u not doing the same as mr jones, avin a go at an inocent person![/p][/quote]You should not be feeling uncomfortable coming home to your new house, as you are quite right you have not been the aggressor here that has been Mr jones and I do hope he does realise the stress and upset he and the situation he has made has caused to local residents and yourself indirectly. Hope you do settle in. Stebaker
  • Score: 3

1:09am Wed 18 Jun 14

Ellis 13 says...

I have had many bad encounters with mr jones it is such a shame people avoid walking past him the police need to sort this bully out once an for all he does not own the swans or the land an to intimidate people who bring their children to feed the ducks an swans is so wrong I don't know anyone who has a good word to say about him an maybe the paper should have done some research an spoke to other residents who have to put up with aggression an abuse for many years before printing his story it's sad that this man is being left to do what he wants if a teenager behaved in this way he would have had a asbo put on him by now this is a lovely area that is being spoilt by him sorry about the rant but needed to be said !!!
I have had many bad encounters with mr jones it is such a shame people avoid walking past him the police need to sort this bully out once an for all he does not own the swans or the land an to intimidate people who bring their children to feed the ducks an swans is so wrong I don't know anyone who has a good word to say about him an maybe the paper should have done some research an spoke to other residents who have to put up with aggression an abuse for many years before printing his story it's sad that this man is being left to do what he wants if a teenager behaved in this way he would have had a asbo put on him by now this is a lovely area that is being spoilt by him sorry about the rant but needed to be said !!! Ellis 13
  • Score: 7

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