Updated: Bankfield School in Widnes in special measures after scathing Ofsted inspection

Runcorn and Widnes World: Dad Phil Black (far right) and parents mount a demonstration outside the school Dad Phil Black (far right) and parents mount a demonstration outside the school

A SCATHING Ofsted inspection has slammed Bankfield School in Widnes and placed into special measures, branding it as ‘inadequate’ with serious defects.

Leadership and management have been criticised for failing to tackle weaknesses at the school in Liverpool Road which has 713 students.

Pupils are under achieving and not being given sufficient opportunities.

Governors have been blamed for being too weak and abandoning their responsibility to monitor the school’s performance.

An experienced deputy head teacher, a consultant and an interim executive board have now been appointed by Halton Council.

Dr Harry Ziman, an experienced school governor will chair the board with experienced governors, Dr Ruth Agnew and Halton Clr Phil Harris and former teacher Clr Tony McDermott..

Lead inspector Ann Ashdown said: “Students’ attainment is not high enough, well below the national average. Students’ progress is too low and they do not make constent enough progress in developing their literacy and numeracy skills.

“Teachers do not have high enough expectations of what their students can do. Consequently, the work set is often too easy, especially for the most able students.

“Leadership and management are inadequate because leaders, managers and governors do not have the capacity to tackle weaknesses and bring about improvements quickly enough to ensure the students achieve well.

“Governance is weak. Governors do not monitor the school’s work, including student progress, sufficiently closely to be well informed about its performance in comparison to that of schools nationally.”

“Students’ behaviour requires improvenment.”

Incensed parents mounted a demonstration on Tuesday and criticised head teacher Carole Owen for letting standards slip since achieving ‘outstanding’ in 2010.

Dad-of-five and former pupil, Phil Black, aged 44, of Masefield Avenue, said: “There are some fantastic teachers but we need a new management structure, someone with vision to move it back to where it was.

“Teachers are not getting the support they need and deserve. Our kids are being let down.”

Gerald Meehan, Halton Council’s strategic director for children, said: “The council is very disappointed at the outcome of Bankfield’s Ofsted inspection and we are working in partnership with the school to bring about improvements.

“An action plan has been drawn up to address areas of weakness.

“Parents should be reassured that their children will continue to be well supported at the school.”

NAS/UWT teachers’ union representative, Jenni Long said: “We have been raising concerns about behaviour for some time.

“Teachers spend their entire lesson trying to deal with disruptive pupils. You’ve got to get behaviour and respect right before you can deliver outstanding, motivational, stimulating lessons.

“Teachers are desperate to have somebody leading them in the right direction. They are not frightened of the challenges and changes that need to be made.”

Halton MP and former pupil Derek Twigg said: “A lot of good teaching takes place.

“We’ve got to move the school forward and get the best possible education for all the students. I will be following the situation very closely.”

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2:52pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Mr Allen says...

FACT, schools employ extra teacher assistant six to twelve months prior to their due report on a casual basis then slowly release them after their glowing reports.
There's an outstanding primary school in Runcorn that probably won't achieve outstanding if there was a snap OFSTED inspection tomorrow.
FACT, schools employ extra teacher assistant six to twelve months prior to their due report on a casual basis then slowly release them after their glowing reports. There's an outstanding primary school in Runcorn that probably won't achieve outstanding if there was a snap OFSTED inspection tomorrow. Mr Allen
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6:04pm Mon 13 Jan 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Tech01 wrote:
Get Carol Owen out. She is a very weak head teacher.
The school has been going downhill for a few years. The behaviour in classrooms has been despicable. The teachers let the students get away with "murderIn my considered opinion, If you were aware that there were problems and did nothing about your children's school education then shame on you!
[quote][p][bold]Tech01[/bold] wrote: Get Carol Owen out. She is a very weak head teacher. The school has been going downhill for a few years. The behaviour in classrooms has been despicable. The teachers let the students get away with "murderIn my considered opinion, If you were aware that there were problems and did nothing about your children's school education then shame on you! SAC_in_Warrington
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7:32pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Realistic Person says...

Ofsted are always changing the goal posts and this has been seen of late with many schools (like this one) dripping down at least one grade from what it was before. The school I'm sure is no different to how it was judged last time, it's down to the 'eye of the beholder' (or observer in this case). Gove's strategies to show his importance I'm sure...
Ofsted are always changing the goal posts and this has been seen of late with many schools (like this one) dripping down at least one grade from what it was before. The school I'm sure is no different to how it was judged last time, it's down to the 'eye of the beholder' (or observer in this case). Gove's strategies to show his importance I'm sure... Realistic Person
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9:57pm Tue 14 Jan 14

PeterFiles101 says...

Now hang on a minute. Nobody knows what goes in the school. How can parents be blaming the headteacher only? I'm pretty sure that The Bankfield School was graded as 'Inadequate' and not the headteacher. So parents have no right commenting saying 'Get Carole Owen Out' at all. Also, if she were to leave now, it wouldn't solve anything, it would just disrupt things and if any change should happen, it should happen in the summer. I just think that people are too quick to blame the headteacher and need to look at the wider picture - the school as a whole. To just pinpoint one person is unfair.
Now hang on a minute. Nobody knows what goes in the school. How can parents be blaming the headteacher only? I'm pretty sure that The Bankfield School was graded as 'Inadequate' and not the headteacher. So parents have no right commenting saying 'Get Carole Owen Out' at all. Also, if she were to leave now, it wouldn't solve anything, it would just disrupt things and if any change should happen, it should happen in the summer. I just think that people are too quick to blame the headteacher and need to look at the wider picture - the school as a whole. To just pinpoint one person is unfair. PeterFiles101
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7:09am Wed 15 Jan 14

missf_ says...

"Leadership and management are inadequate because leaders, managers and governors do not
have the capacity to tackle weaknesses and bring about improvements" doesn't that say it all?
"Leadership and management are inadequate because leaders, managers and governors do not have the capacity to tackle weaknesses and bring about improvements" doesn't that say it all? missf_
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7:39am Wed 15 Jan 14

Nicam2013 says...

Interesting how it is assumed that parents are posting comments. Being real about it, the Head teacher should go. She receives a great big fat salary to manage the school and obviously, this job isn't being done effectively.
As with other Managerial roles- Football managers lose their job if their team doesn't perform satisfactorily and reach their target, so why should Head Teachers be given a second chance?
Will the pupils receive 2nd chances with their education? I think not.
Off with the Head!!
Interesting how it is assumed that parents are posting comments. Being real about it, the Head teacher should go. She receives a great big fat salary to manage the school and obviously, this job isn't being done effectively. As with other Managerial roles- Football managers lose their job if their team doesn't perform satisfactorily and reach their target, so why should Head Teachers be given a second chance? Will the pupils receive 2nd chances with their education? I think not. Off with the Head!! Nicam2013
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11:34am Wed 15 Jan 14

the_mongoose says...

Not much of a demonstration Phil, are you sure those 5 other people were not just waiting for a bus.
Not much of a demonstration Phil, are you sure those 5 other people were not just waiting for a bus. the_mongoose
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12:27pm Wed 15 Jan 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

In my considered opinion, If parents were aware that serious problems existed and did nothing about their children's school education then shame on you parents! The governors also have a lot to answer for in this particular case as they have often overruled the Headteacher. The Headteacher has worked hard to raise the standards in this school. The school has inherited pupils with low/poor academic attainment from primary schools locally and some parents who don't value education in any form, least of all the education that is normally obtained in the home setting.
In my considered opinion, If parents were aware that serious problems existed and did nothing about their children's school education then shame on you parents! The governors also have a lot to answer for in this particular case as they have often overruled the Headteacher. The Headteacher has worked hard to raise the standards in this school. The school has inherited pupils with low/poor academic attainment from primary schools locally and some parents who don't value education in any form, least of all the education that is normally obtained in the home setting. SAC_in_Warrington
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2:06pm Wed 15 Jan 14

missf_ says...

SAC_in_Warrington: blaming the parents is an act of despicable cowardice. How do you know what they have or have not tried to do? .They are not the ones who are paid a massive salary to run the school. How do you know the Governors overruled the Headteacher? The only way you'd know that is if you were present at the meetings?? Ofsted clearly don't share your "considered" opinion about the Headteacher and they are the experts. You also condemn local Primary Schools for filling poor Bankfield with low achievers, if that was true it would be them, not Bankfield, in Special Measures. By any chance are you a personal friend or relative of the Headteacher?????????
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SAC_in_Warrington: blaming the parents is an act of despicable cowardice. How do you know what they have or have not tried to do? .They are not the ones who are paid a massive salary to run the school. How do you know the Governors overruled the Headteacher? The only way you'd know that is if you were present at the meetings?? Ofsted clearly don't share your "considered" opinion about the Headteacher and they are the experts. You also condemn local Primary Schools for filling poor Bankfield with low achievers, if that was true it would be them, not Bankfield, in Special Measures. By any chance are you a personal friend or relative of the Headteacher????????? ??? missf_
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4:01pm Wed 15 Jan 14

PhilBlack69 says...

The public meeting was low key by design and was never meant to be banner and flag waving. I have much more respect for the education of the kids than to do that.

I delivered on my original intention of a quiet and peaceful meeting of like minded people who believe that in order to improve changes need to be made throughout.

A previous post on here is correct ... it isn't just down to the headteacher, which is why we are calling for a change in the senior management. The previous Governing body failed in their duty, the Head has failed even after asking us .... After the Ofsted in April that stated we required improvement .... We were asked to trust that they would turn it around...... 6 months later we are in special measures..... and all trust has been shattered.

That fact and only that fact means there needs to be a change.... The Governing body will be changing, so should the rest of the leadership. I had offered to join the Governing body ... an offer that wasn't taken up ... I still intend to if given the chance, because it is only together that we can bring the school back round to were it should be.

For the Kids, for the Teachers, for a better Bankfield

Phil Black
The public meeting was low key by design and was never meant to be banner and flag waving. I have much more respect for the education of the kids than to do that. I delivered on my original intention of a quiet and peaceful meeting of like minded people who believe that in order to improve changes need to be made throughout. A previous post on here is correct ... it isn't just down to the headteacher, which is why we are calling for a change in the senior management. The previous Governing body failed in their duty, the Head has failed even after asking us .... After the Ofsted in April that stated we required improvement .... We were asked to trust that they would turn it around...... 6 months later we are in special measures..... and all trust has been shattered. That fact and only that fact means there needs to be a change.... The Governing body will be changing, so should the rest of the leadership. I had offered to join the Governing body ... an offer that wasn't taken up ... I still intend to if given the chance, because it is only together that we can bring the school back round to were it should be. For the Kids, for the Teachers, for a better Bankfield Phil Black PhilBlack69
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5:09pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Nicam2013 says...

SAC_in_Warrington: Oh yes, let's blame the parents! In fact, let's blame the kids for the complete failure of the Head teacher when they don't have the privilege of knowing the entire picture of achievement and results across the school. By golly, you'll be advising that the parents are to be hung drawn and quartered next because they chose that school to support their child's needs .Come Head teacher and hide behind all those 'pesky kids' shame they need educating!!
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The entire school community deserves better than faceless cowards layering insults about the progress and ability of their children, their future.
In an age of accountability, who receives £60K a year and remains in their post after making such a mess. These kids only have one chance...so did the Head.
SAC_in_Warrington: Oh yes, let's blame the parents! In fact, let's blame the kids for the complete failure of the Head teacher when they don't have the privilege of knowing the entire picture of achievement and results across the school. By golly, you'll be advising that the parents are to be hung drawn and quartered next because they chose that school to support their child's needs .Come Head teacher and hide behind all those 'pesky kids' shame they need educating!! ... The entire school community deserves better than faceless cowards layering insults about the progress and ability of their children, their future. In an age of accountability, who receives £60K a year and remains in their post after making such a mess. These kids only have one chance...so did the Head. Nicam2013
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5:14pm Wed 15 Jan 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

missf_ wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington: blaming the parents is an act of despicable cowardice. How do you know what they have or have not tried to do? .They are not the ones who are paid a massive salary to run the school. How do you know the Governors overruled the Headteacher? The only way you'd know that is if you were present at the meetings?? Ofsted clearly don't share your "considered" opinion about the Headteacher and they are the experts. You also condemn local Primary Schools for filling poor Bankfield with low achievers, if that was true it would be them, not Bankfield, in Special Measures. By any chance are you a personal friend or relative of the Headteacher?????????

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I am not related to the Headteacher however my relationship with this school has been in a professional capacity. The comments I made are based on personal observation of Bankfield and at the local Primary Schools in addition I have also knowledge of the communities that send their children to Bankfield and I stand by the comments that I shared. Just to make it abundantly clear I never mentioned blame as you have done with your vitriol and the assumed information that you as fact have proffered in your comment. I don't think for one minute that you have had any experience of the complexities of school management. You need to read the OFSTED report in full, before you start to offer any constructive criticism and therefore any possible solutions.
[quote][p][bold]missf_[/bold] wrote: SAC_in_Warrington: blaming the parents is an act of despicable cowardice. How do you know what they have or have not tried to do? .They are not the ones who are paid a massive salary to run the school. How do you know the Governors overruled the Headteacher? The only way you'd know that is if you were present at the meetings?? Ofsted clearly don't share your "considered" opinion about the Headteacher and they are the experts. You also condemn local Primary Schools for filling poor Bankfield with low achievers, if that was true it would be them, not Bankfield, in Special Measures. By any chance are you a personal friend or relative of the Headteacher????????? ???[/p][/quote]I am not related to the Headteacher however my relationship with this school has been in a professional capacity. The comments I made are based on personal observation of Bankfield and at the local Primary Schools in addition I have also knowledge of the communities that send their children to Bankfield and I stand by the comments that I shared. Just to make it abundantly clear I never mentioned blame as you have done with your vitriol and the assumed information that you as fact have proffered in your comment. I don't think for one minute that you have had any experience of the complexities of school management. You need to read the OFSTED report in full, before you start to offer any constructive criticism and therefore any possible solutions. SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -2

5:35pm Wed 15 Jan 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

Nicam2013 wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington: Oh yes, let's blame the parents! In fact, let's blame the kids for the complete failure of the Head teacher when they don't have the privilege of knowing the entire picture of achievement and results across the school. By golly, you'll be advising that the parents are to be hung drawn and quartered next because they chose that school to support their child's needs .Come Head teacher and hide behind all those 'pesky kids' shame they need educating!!
...
The entire school community deserves better than faceless cowards layering insults about the progress and ability of their children, their future.
In an age of accountability, who receives £60K a year and remains in their post after making such a mess. These kids only have one chance...so did the Head.
You are demonstrating your naivety by your off-the-cuff comment. You have either intentionally or through ignorance misinterpreted my previous comment. Look at it holistically the reasons for the failures will be spread across the whole school community and possibly include some policy decisions from outside will have contributed to the evidence that OFSTED had access to. Given support from the appropriate agencies and the appropriate professionals the Headteacher will I confidently expect will endeavour to improve the school. The parents, Teachers, Ancillary Staff and Governors should all step up and achieve the desired improvements and outcomes.
[quote][p][bold]Nicam2013[/bold] wrote: SAC_in_Warrington: Oh yes, let's blame the parents! In fact, let's blame the kids for the complete failure of the Head teacher when they don't have the privilege of knowing the entire picture of achievement and results across the school. By golly, you'll be advising that the parents are to be hung drawn and quartered next because they chose that school to support their child's needs .Come Head teacher and hide behind all those 'pesky kids' shame they need educating!! ... The entire school community deserves better than faceless cowards layering insults about the progress and ability of their children, their future. In an age of accountability, who receives £60K a year and remains in their post after making such a mess. These kids only have one chance...so did the Head.[/p][/quote]You are demonstrating your naivety by your off-the-cuff comment. You have either intentionally or through ignorance misinterpreted my previous comment. Look at it holistically the reasons for the failures will be spread across the whole school community and possibly include some policy decisions from outside will have contributed to the evidence that OFSTED had access to. Given support from the appropriate agencies and the appropriate professionals the Headteacher will I confidently expect will endeavour to improve the school. The parents, Teachers, Ancillary Staff and Governors should all step up and achieve the desired improvements and outcomes. SAC_in_Warrington
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5:46pm Wed 15 Jan 14

missf_ says...

SAC_in_Warrington; I have read the Ofsted report in full and yes you most certainly did blame the parents, governors and feeder Primary Schools. Perhaps you've lost the capacity to read your own posts just as you have lost the capacity to use punctuation correctly. Let's hope you were not employed as an English adviser!
SAC_in_Warrington; I have read the Ofsted report in full and yes you most certainly did blame the parents, governors and feeder Primary Schools. Perhaps you've lost the capacity to read your own posts just as you have lost the capacity to use punctuation correctly. Let's hope you were not employed as an English adviser! missf_
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6:02pm Wed 15 Jan 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

missf_ wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington; I have read the Ofsted report in full and yes you most certainly did blame the parents, governors and feeder Primary Schools. Perhaps you've lost the capacity to read your own posts just as you have lost the capacity to use punctuation correctly. Let's hope you were not employed as an English adviser!
Again you comment and I now believe that you are intentionally misinterpreting my comments. My comments on the parents who had't complained about any poor standards was, "If parents were aware that serious problems existed and did nothing about their children's school education then shame on you parents!". This comment of mine was not made in isolation and should not be read as such.

You comment further missf , again in ignorance, except for your observed knowledge of English Grammar.
[quote][p][bold]missf_[/bold] wrote: SAC_in_Warrington; I have read the Ofsted report in full and yes you most certainly did blame the parents, governors and feeder Primary Schools. Perhaps you've lost the capacity to read your own posts just as you have lost the capacity to use punctuation correctly. Let's hope you were not employed as an English adviser![/p][/quote]Again you comment and I now believe that you are intentionally misinterpreting my comments. My comments on the parents who had't complained about any poor standards was, "If parents were aware that serious problems existed and did nothing about their children's school education then shame on you parents!". This comment of mine was not made in isolation and should not be read as such. You comment further missf , again in ignorance, except for your observed knowledge of English Grammar. SAC_in_Warrington
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6:18pm Wed 15 Jan 14

missf_ says...

Oh dear, standards are declining rapidly, "my comments....was". Perhaps the English staff at Bankfield could help you out with some much-needed English lessons. If you are looking for somebody posting "in ignorance" try looking in the mirror. Of course there are many issues that need to be addressed but it is the Headteacher who is charged with the overall responsibility of the day-to-day running of the school. Ofsted gave her fair warning that things needed to change in July but instead of improving the school has got worse. As I've already quoted, Ofsted conclude that the current Leadership team do not have the capacity to bring about the necessary improvements.
Oh dear, standards are declining rapidly, "my comments....was". Perhaps the English staff at Bankfield could help you out with some much-needed English lessons. If you are looking for somebody posting "in ignorance" try looking in the mirror. Of course there are many issues that need to be addressed but it is the Headteacher who is charged with the overall responsibility of the day-to-day running of the school. Ofsted gave her fair warning that things needed to change in July but instead of improving the school has got worse. As I've already quoted, Ofsted conclude that the current Leadership team do not have the capacity to bring about the necessary improvements. missf_
  • Score: 1

6:50pm Wed 15 Jan 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

missf_ wrote:
Oh dear, standards are declining rapidly, "my comments....was". Perhaps the English staff at Bankfield could help you out with some much-needed English lessons. If you are looking for somebody posting "in ignorance" try looking in the mirror. Of course there are many issues that need to be addressed but it is the Headteacher who is charged with the overall responsibility of the day-to-day running of the school. Ofsted gave her fair warning that things needed to change in July but instead of improving the school has got worse. As I've already quoted, Ofsted conclude that the current Leadership team do not have the capacity to bring about the necessary improvements.
Given support from the appropriate agencies and the appropriate professionals the Headteacher will, I confidently expect endeavour to improve the school. The parents, Teachers, Ancillary Staff and Governors should all step up and achieve the desired improvements and outcomes. Carol Owen was capable and responsible for the improvements that saved the school from closing some years ago. I have no doubt that if individual achievement of individual pupils were scrutinised it would show significant improvements since transferring to the school from their respective feeder primary schools. OFSTED will not have done this. Ofsted would have taken a small sample and extrapolated their findings and viewed this as a part of their evidence. That might have explained why the parents didn't complain as they actually experienced their child or children making progress, however this progress wasn't enough for OFSTED and the higher standard they were seeking.

Coincidently what are you doing to help the school improve, as you appear to be so concerned that something positive should happen and happen immediately?
[quote][p][bold]missf_[/bold] wrote: Oh dear, standards are declining rapidly, "my comments....was". Perhaps the English staff at Bankfield could help you out with some much-needed English lessons. If you are looking for somebody posting "in ignorance" try looking in the mirror. Of course there are many issues that need to be addressed but it is the Headteacher who is charged with the overall responsibility of the day-to-day running of the school. Ofsted gave her fair warning that things needed to change in July but instead of improving the school has got worse. As I've already quoted, Ofsted conclude that the current Leadership team do not have the capacity to bring about the necessary improvements.[/p][/quote]Given support from the appropriate agencies and the appropriate professionals the Headteacher will, I confidently expect endeavour to improve the school. The parents, Teachers, Ancillary Staff and Governors should all step up and achieve the desired improvements and outcomes. Carol Owen was capable and responsible for the improvements that saved the school from closing some years ago. I have no doubt that if individual achievement of individual pupils were scrutinised it would show significant improvements since transferring to the school from their respective feeder primary schools. OFSTED will not have done this. Ofsted would have taken a small sample and extrapolated their findings and viewed this as a part of their evidence. That might have explained why the parents didn't complain as they actually experienced their child or children making progress, however this progress wasn't enough for OFSTED and the higher standard they were seeking. Coincidently what are you doing to help the school improve, as you appear to be so concerned that something positive should happen and happen immediately? SAC_in_Warrington
  • Score: -4

7:45pm Wed 15 Jan 14

missf_ says...

I personally agree with Ofsted that what is now required is a change in the Leadership of the school. Sadly I am not in a position to bring that about but I hope, for the sake of the pupils and the "Indians" rather than the "chiefs", that this happens sooner rather than later. Ofsted gave the Leadership and Governing Body a chance to show some improvement but they failed. I'm afraid that harping on about what happened years ago is irrelevant, it is what is happening now that is important. You are also wrong in your proclamations about how Ofsted deal with data. There is extensive data on KS2 to KS4 progress which includes every pupil, not a small sample, which Ofsted will have certainly have viewed and considered. Like I have already said, if the feeder Primary Schools were under-achieving then they would be the ones in Special Measures, not Bankfield.
I personally agree with Ofsted that what is now required is a change in the Leadership of the school. Sadly I am not in a position to bring that about but I hope, for the sake of the pupils and the "Indians" rather than the "chiefs", that this happens sooner rather than later. Ofsted gave the Leadership and Governing Body a chance to show some improvement but they failed. I'm afraid that harping on about what happened years ago is irrelevant, it is what is happening now that is important. You are also wrong in your proclamations about how Ofsted deal with data. There is extensive data on KS2 to KS4 progress which includes every pupil, not a small sample, which Ofsted will have certainly have viewed and considered. Like I have already said, if the feeder Primary Schools were under-achieving then they would be the ones in Special Measures, not Bankfield. missf_
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8:36pm Wed 15 Jan 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

missf_ wrote:
I personally agree with Ofsted that what is now required is a change in the Leadership of the school. Sadly I am not in a position to bring that about but I hope, for the sake of the pupils and the "Indians" rather than the "chiefs", that this happens sooner rather than later. Ofsted gave the Leadership and Governing Body a chance to show some improvement but they failed. I'm afraid that harping on about what happened years ago is irrelevant, it is what is happening now that is important. You are also wrong in your proclamations about how Ofsted deal with data. There is extensive data on KS2 to KS4 progress which includes every pupil, not a small sample, which Ofsted will have certainly have viewed and considered. Like I have already said, if the feeder Primary Schools were under-achieving then they would be the ones in Special Measures, not Bankfield.
I do know how OfSTED deal with data and I described the process they often use in an earlier comment, but you, with your extensive knowledge of the topic don't recognise it as being valid. I doubt if you have ever been involved in an OfSTED inspection or observed one taking place in-situ.
[quote][p][bold]missf_[/bold] wrote: I personally agree with Ofsted that what is now required is a change in the Leadership of the school. Sadly I am not in a position to bring that about but I hope, for the sake of the pupils and the "Indians" rather than the "chiefs", that this happens sooner rather than later. Ofsted gave the Leadership and Governing Body a chance to show some improvement but they failed. I'm afraid that harping on about what happened years ago is irrelevant, it is what is happening now that is important. You are also wrong in your proclamations about how Ofsted deal with data. There is extensive data on KS2 to KS4 progress which includes every pupil, not a small sample, which Ofsted will have certainly have viewed and considered. Like I have already said, if the feeder Primary Schools were under-achieving then they would be the ones in Special Measures, not Bankfield.[/p][/quote]I do know how OfSTED deal with data and I described the process they often use in an earlier comment, but you, with your extensive knowledge of the topic don't recognise it as being valid. I doubt if you have ever been involved in an OfSTED inspection or observed one taking place in-situ. SAC_in_Warrington
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8:54pm Wed 15 Jan 14

missf_ says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
missf_ wrote:
I personally agree with Ofsted that what is now required is a change in the Leadership of the school. Sadly I am not in a position to bring that about but I hope, for the sake of the pupils and the "Indians" rather than the "chiefs", that this happens sooner rather than later. Ofsted gave the Leadership and Governing Body a chance to show some improvement but they failed. I'm afraid that harping on about what happened years ago is irrelevant, it is what is happening now that is important. You are also wrong in your proclamations about how Ofsted deal with data. There is extensive data on KS2 to KS4 progress which includes every pupil, not a small sample, which Ofsted will have certainly have viewed and considered. Like I have already said, if the feeder Primary Schools were under-achieving then they would be the ones in Special Measures, not Bankfield.
I do know how OfSTED deal with data and I described the process they often use in an earlier comment, but you, with your extensive knowledge of the topic don't recognise it as being valid. I doubt if you have ever been involved in an OfSTED inspection or observed one taking place in-situ.
You are actually seriously deluded. Yes I have been involved in numerous Ofsted inspections and holding a managerial responsibility for Assessment I think I know what data Ofsted scrutinise! How anybody can seriously believe that a school could be placed in Special Measures based on erroneous data beggars belief. Totally ridiculous.
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]missf_[/bold] wrote: I personally agree with Ofsted that what is now required is a change in the Leadership of the school. Sadly I am not in a position to bring that about but I hope, for the sake of the pupils and the "Indians" rather than the "chiefs", that this happens sooner rather than later. Ofsted gave the Leadership and Governing Body a chance to show some improvement but they failed. I'm afraid that harping on about what happened years ago is irrelevant, it is what is happening now that is important. You are also wrong in your proclamations about how Ofsted deal with data. There is extensive data on KS2 to KS4 progress which includes every pupil, not a small sample, which Ofsted will have certainly have viewed and considered. Like I have already said, if the feeder Primary Schools were under-achieving then they would be the ones in Special Measures, not Bankfield.[/p][/quote]I do know how OfSTED deal with data and I described the process they often use in an earlier comment, but you, with your extensive knowledge of the topic don't recognise it as being valid. I doubt if you have ever been involved in an OfSTED inspection or observed one taking place in-situ.[/p][/quote]You are actually seriously deluded. Yes I have been involved in numerous Ofsted inspections and holding a managerial responsibility for Assessment I think I know what data Ofsted scrutinise! How anybody can seriously believe that a school could be placed in Special Measures based on erroneous data beggars belief. Totally ridiculous. missf_
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11:43pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Whipeout says...

Just a couple of pertinent facts.

The school has fallen from being judged outstanding to special measures in 3 or 4 years, that in itself is shocking.

The head has been in place for this period and probably the majority of the senior management team and Ofsted have judged that the head and the senior management team do not have the capacity to bring about the necessary change.
The Head as the leader, and the senior management team need to be brought to book and for the school to move forward there has to be change.
Two of my children were in a local school who were put into special measures and once the change was introduced (new head in this case and a revamped board of governors) it was the best thing that happened to the school
Just a couple of pertinent facts. The school has fallen from being judged outstanding to special measures in 3 or 4 years, that in itself is shocking. The head has been in place for this period and probably the majority of the senior management team and Ofsted have judged that the head and the senior management team do not have the capacity to bring about the necessary change. The Head as the leader, and the senior management team need to be brought to book and for the school to move forward there has to be change. Two of my children were in a local school who were put into special measures and once the change was introduced (new head in this case and a revamped board of governors) it was the best thing that happened to the school Whipeout
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11:55pm Wed 15 Jan 14

SAC_in_Warrington says...

missf_ wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
missf_ wrote:
I personally agree with Ofsted that what is now required is a change in the Leadership of the school. Sadly I am not in a position to bring that about but I hope, for the sake of the pupils and the "Indians" rather than the "chiefs", that this happens sooner rather than later. Ofsted gave the Leadership and Governing Body a chance to show some improvement but they failed. I'm afraid that harping on about what happened years ago is irrelevant, it is what is happening now that is important. You are also wrong in your proclamations about how Ofsted deal with data. There is extensive data on KS2 to KS4 progress which includes every pupil, not a small sample, which Ofsted will have certainly have viewed and considered. Like I have already said, if the feeder Primary Schools were under-achieving then they would be the ones in Special Measures, not Bankfield.
I do know how OfSTED deal with data and I described the process they often use in an earlier comment, but you, with your extensive knowledge of the topic don't recognise it as being valid. I doubt if you have ever been involved in an OfSTED inspection or observed one taking place in-situ.
You are actually seriously deluded. Yes I have been involved in numerous Ofsted inspections and holding a managerial responsibility for Assessment I think I know what data Ofsted scrutinise! How anybody can seriously believe that a school could be placed in Special Measures based on erroneous data beggars belief. Totally ridiculous.
I clearly realise that this is obviously your personal opinion and that it was you who was thinking about the possibility of someone believing, "that a school could be placed in Special Measures based on erroneous data....", and evidenced by your choice of words in your last comment.

You know as well as I do that with such reports is common to question the methodology. It appears that we have both experienced the process of OfSTED inspections. However it just so happens that our experiences differ greatly. It will not change the results of the report of the current inspection of the school.

I wish them well and I am sure that there will be some improvements when the inspectors return to check on Bankfield School. The parents of the reported unruly children could start the ball rolling by training their offspring to behave whilst in school and in the local community for that matter.
[quote][p][bold]missf_[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]missf_[/bold] wrote: I personally agree with Ofsted that what is now required is a change in the Leadership of the school. Sadly I am not in a position to bring that about but I hope, for the sake of the pupils and the "Indians" rather than the "chiefs", that this happens sooner rather than later. Ofsted gave the Leadership and Governing Body a chance to show some improvement but they failed. I'm afraid that harping on about what happened years ago is irrelevant, it is what is happening now that is important. You are also wrong in your proclamations about how Ofsted deal with data. There is extensive data on KS2 to KS4 progress which includes every pupil, not a small sample, which Ofsted will have certainly have viewed and considered. Like I have already said, if the feeder Primary Schools were under-achieving then they would be the ones in Special Measures, not Bankfield.[/p][/quote]I do know how OfSTED deal with data and I described the process they often use in an earlier comment, but you, with your extensive knowledge of the topic don't recognise it as being valid. I doubt if you have ever been involved in an OfSTED inspection or observed one taking place in-situ.[/p][/quote]You are actually seriously deluded. Yes I have been involved in numerous Ofsted inspections and holding a managerial responsibility for Assessment I think I know what data Ofsted scrutinise! How anybody can seriously believe that a school could be placed in Special Measures based on erroneous data beggars belief. Totally ridiculous.[/p][/quote]I clearly realise that this is obviously your personal opinion and that it was you who was thinking about the possibility of someone believing, "that a school could be placed in Special Measures based on erroneous data....", and evidenced by your choice of words in your last comment. You know as well as I do that with such reports is common to question the methodology. It appears that we have both experienced the process of OfSTED inspections. However it just so happens that our experiences differ greatly. It will not change the results of the report of the current inspection of the school. I wish them well and I am sure that there will be some improvements when the inspectors return to check on Bankfield School. The parents of the reported unruly children could start the ball rolling by training their offspring to behave whilst in school and in the local community for that matter. SAC_in_Warrington
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8:04am Thu 16 Jan 14

missf_ says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
missf_ wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
missf_ wrote:
I personally agree with Ofsted that what is now required is a change in the Leadership of the school. Sadly I am not in a position to bring that about but I hope, for the sake of the pupils and the "Indians" rather than the "chiefs", that this happens sooner rather than later. Ofsted gave the Leadership and Governing Body a chance to show some improvement but they failed. I'm afraid that harping on about what happened years ago is irrelevant, it is what is happening now that is important. You are also wrong in your proclamations about how Ofsted deal with data. There is extensive data on KS2 to KS4 progress which includes every pupil, not a small sample, which Ofsted will have certainly have viewed and considered. Like I have already said, if the feeder Primary Schools were under-achieving then they would be the ones in Special Measures, not Bankfield.
I do know how OfSTED deal with data and I described the process they often use in an earlier comment, but you, with your extensive knowledge of the topic don't recognise it as being valid. I doubt if you have ever been involved in an OfSTED inspection or observed one taking place in-situ.
You are actually seriously deluded. Yes I have been involved in numerous Ofsted inspections and holding a managerial responsibility for Assessment I think I know what data Ofsted scrutinise! How anybody can seriously believe that a school could be placed in Special Measures based on erroneous data beggars belief. Totally ridiculous.
I clearly realise that this is obviously your personal opinion and that it was you who was thinking about the possibility of someone believing, "that a school could be placed in Special Measures based on erroneous data....", and evidenced by your choice of words in your last comment.

You know as well as I do that with such reports is common to question the methodology. It appears that we have both experienced the process of OfSTED inspections. However it just so happens that our experiences differ greatly. It will not change the results of the report of the current inspection of the school.

I wish them well and I am sure that there will be some improvements when the inspectors return to check on Bankfield School. The parents of the reported unruly children could start the ball rolling by training their offspring to behave whilst in school and in the local community for that matter.
"training their offspring to behave" wow, I'm glad you don't work with my children as you clearly treat them like animals, how wonderful. It's sad that every time your points are challenged you pretend you didn't make them. I'll say again, the Leadership team were given the chance to show they could bring about improvements but they failed. Indeed if you read the Section 8 report from the monitoring visit between the last 2 inspections, it is very clear that the Governors and Headteacher chose to ignore Ofsted's warnings. The Headteacher even wrote to parents telling them the school was fine it was the inspectors who were wrong!
Ofsted, like everyone else, takes the business of placing a school in Special Measures very seriously. They do not publish the report in 15 working days like for other grades. The report has to be subject to additional quality/accuracy checks. Then the school and Local Authority gets a copy of the draft report and is offered the opportunity to submit evidence to refute any factual errors. Don't you think if the Special Measures grade was in any way down to anomalous data then the school/LA would have been able to demonstrate this? It's interesting that you are happy to accept the judgement made over 3 years ago but not the 2 made in 2013.
I hope the young people at Bankfield are afforded the opportunity to fulfill their individual potentials and continue to believe that this can only happen when those at the top are held accountable for their mis-management of the school.
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]missf_[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]missf_[/bold] wrote: I personally agree with Ofsted that what is now required is a change in the Leadership of the school. Sadly I am not in a position to bring that about but I hope, for the sake of the pupils and the "Indians" rather than the "chiefs", that this happens sooner rather than later. Ofsted gave the Leadership and Governing Body a chance to show some improvement but they failed. I'm afraid that harping on about what happened years ago is irrelevant, it is what is happening now that is important. You are also wrong in your proclamations about how Ofsted deal with data. There is extensive data on KS2 to KS4 progress which includes every pupil, not a small sample, which Ofsted will have certainly have viewed and considered. Like I have already said, if the feeder Primary Schools were under-achieving then they would be the ones in Special Measures, not Bankfield.[/p][/quote]I do know how OfSTED deal with data and I described the process they often use in an earlier comment, but you, with your extensive knowledge of the topic don't recognise it as being valid. I doubt if you have ever been involved in an OfSTED inspection or observed one taking place in-situ.[/p][/quote]You are actually seriously deluded. Yes I have been involved in numerous Ofsted inspections and holding a managerial responsibility for Assessment I think I know what data Ofsted scrutinise! How anybody can seriously believe that a school could be placed in Special Measures based on erroneous data beggars belief. Totally ridiculous.[/p][/quote]I clearly realise that this is obviously your personal opinion and that it was you who was thinking about the possibility of someone believing, "that a school could be placed in Special Measures based on erroneous data....", and evidenced by your choice of words in your last comment. You know as well as I do that with such reports is common to question the methodology. It appears that we have both experienced the process of OfSTED inspections. However it just so happens that our experiences differ greatly. It will not change the results of the report of the current inspection of the school. I wish them well and I am sure that there will be some improvements when the inspectors return to check on Bankfield School. The parents of the reported unruly children could start the ball rolling by training their offspring to behave whilst in school and in the local community for that matter.[/p][/quote]"training their offspring to behave" wow, I'm glad you don't work with my children as you clearly treat them like animals, how wonderful. It's sad that every time your points are challenged you pretend you didn't make them. I'll say again, the Leadership team were given the chance to show they could bring about improvements but they failed. Indeed if you read the Section 8 report from the monitoring visit between the last 2 inspections, it is very clear that the Governors and Headteacher chose to ignore Ofsted's warnings. The Headteacher even wrote to parents telling them the school was fine it was the inspectors who were wrong! Ofsted, like everyone else, takes the business of placing a school in Special Measures very seriously. They do not publish the report in 15 working days like for other grades. The report has to be subject to additional quality/accuracy checks. Then the school and Local Authority gets a copy of the draft report and is offered the opportunity to submit evidence to refute any factual errors. Don't you think if the Special Measures grade was in any way down to anomalous data then the school/LA would have been able to demonstrate this? It's interesting that you are happy to accept the judgement made over 3 years ago but not the 2 made in 2013. I hope the young people at Bankfield are afforded the opportunity to fulfill their individual potentials and continue to believe that this can only happen when those at the top are held accountable for their mis-management of the school. missf_
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6:42pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Nicam2013 says...

SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
missf_ wrote:
SAC_in_Warrington wrote:
missf_ wrote:
I personally agree with Ofsted that what is now required is a change in the Leadership of the school. Sadly I am not in a position to bring that about but I hope, for the sake of the pupils and the "Indians" rather than the "chiefs", that this happens sooner rather than later. Ofsted gave the Leadership and Governing Body a chance to show some improvement but they failed. I'm afraid that harping on about what happened years ago is irrelevant, it is what is happening now that is important. You are also wrong in your proclamations about how Ofsted deal with data. There is extensive data on KS2 to KS4 progress which includes every pupil, not a small sample, which Ofsted will have certainly have viewed and considered. Like I have already said, if the feeder Primary Schools were under-achieving then they would be the ones in Special Measures, not Bankfield.
I do know how OfSTED deal with data and I described the process they often use in an earlier comment, but you, with your extensive knowledge of the topic don't recognise it as being valid. I doubt if you have ever been involved in an OfSTED inspection or observed one taking place in-situ.
You are actually seriously deluded. Yes I have been involved in numerous Ofsted inspections and holding a managerial responsibility for Assessment I think I know what data Ofsted scrutinise! How anybody can seriously believe that a school could be placed in Special Measures based on erroneous data beggars belief. Totally ridiculous.
I clearly realise that this is obviously your personal opinion and that it was you who was thinking about the possibility of someone believing, "that a school could be placed in Special Measures based on erroneous data....", and evidenced by your choice of words in your last comment.

You know as well as I do that with such reports is common to question the methodology. It appears that we have both experienced the process of OfSTED inspections. However it just so happens that our experiences differ greatly. It will not change the results of the report of the current inspection of the school.

I wish them well and I am sure that there will be some improvements when the inspectors return to check on Bankfield School. The parents of the reported unruly children could start the ball rolling by training their offspring to behave whilst in school and in the local community for that matter.
I quoted the above to illustrate why our hard-working staff in schools are being slated in the press and by Government. The above is a perfect example of everything education should...and indeed the children (oh excuse me, 'offspring' )
Maybe you might understand if I insisted that you and your opinions 'moo-ve on!'
missf_ I completely agree with you! Never a truer word spoken
[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]missf_[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]missf_[/bold] wrote: I personally agree with Ofsted that what is now required is a change in the Leadership of the school. Sadly I am not in a position to bring that about but I hope, for the sake of the pupils and the "Indians" rather than the "chiefs", that this happens sooner rather than later. Ofsted gave the Leadership and Governing Body a chance to show some improvement but they failed. I'm afraid that harping on about what happened years ago is irrelevant, it is what is happening now that is important. You are also wrong in your proclamations about how Ofsted deal with data. There is extensive data on KS2 to KS4 progress which includes every pupil, not a small sample, which Ofsted will have certainly have viewed and considered. Like I have already said, if the feeder Primary Schools were under-achieving then they would be the ones in Special Measures, not Bankfield.[/p][/quote]I do know how OfSTED deal with data and I described the process they often use in an earlier comment, but you, with your extensive knowledge of the topic don't recognise it as being valid. I doubt if you have ever been involved in an OfSTED inspection or observed one taking place in-situ.[/p][/quote]You are actually seriously deluded. Yes I have been involved in numerous Ofsted inspections and holding a managerial responsibility for Assessment I think I know what data Ofsted scrutinise! How anybody can seriously believe that a school could be placed in Special Measures based on erroneous data beggars belief. Totally ridiculous.[/p][/quote]I clearly realise that this is obviously your personal opinion and that it was you who was thinking about the possibility of someone believing, "that a school could be placed in Special Measures based on erroneous data....", and evidenced by your choice of words in your last comment. You know as well as I do that with such reports is common to question the methodology. It appears that we have both experienced the process of OfSTED inspections. However it just so happens that our experiences differ greatly. It will not change the results of the report of the current inspection of the school. I wish them well and I am sure that there will be some improvements when the inspectors return to check on Bankfield School. The parents of the reported unruly children could start the ball rolling by training their offspring to behave whilst in school and in the local community for that matter.[/p][/quote]I quoted the above to illustrate why our hard-working staff in schools are being slated in the press and by Government. The above is a perfect example of everything education should...and indeed the children (oh excuse me, 'offspring' ) Maybe you might understand if I insisted that you and your opinions 'moo-ve on!' missf_ I completely agree with you! Never a truer word spoken Nicam2013
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