Why I opposed gay marriage, Halton MP explains

Runcorn and Widnes World: MP Derek Twigg MP Derek Twigg

HALTON MP Derek Twigg today defended his decision to oppose the Government’s legislation on gay marriage.

He said the issue had triggered one of the largest amounts of correspondence he has ever received since becoming an MP in 1997.

Mr Twigg said: “I have received over 300 communications on the subject of same sex marriage and 94% have been opposed to redefining marriage.

“In coming to my decision, I have both taken account of the views of my constituents and used my own judgement. I believe it is important to put my vote on Tuesday in some context. I have a strong record of voting for equal gay rights including civil partnerships.

“This was a free vote because it was considered to be a matter of conscience.”

He said the debate was both thoughtful and considered as different points of view were listened to with respect.

He added: “I have listened carefully to all views on this issue but I remain unconvinced that there was a strong enough case for me to vote for the redefinition of marriage.

“I might also add that until David Cameron announced he was going to propose a change in the law to allow same sex couples to marry, I cannot recall having a single constituent contact me demanding such a change. The logic of the bill was also flawed because it did not give the same right of civil partnership to heterosexual couples.

“I also have doubts that the so called safeguards in the bill to protect the rights of religious organisations and religious freedoms will be robust enough. There are, I accept, different opinions about this but I believe enough doubt remains to be a cause for genuine concern.”

The bill was carried by 400 to 175. 

Altogether, 22 Labour MPs, 134 Conservatives and 4 Liberal Democrats opposed the legislation. There were 67 cross party abstentions.

Weaver Vale Conservative MP Graham Evans, who represents Runcorn, abstained.

 

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9:29am Fri 8 Feb 13

chunkymunky says...

"Mr Twigg said: “I have received over 300 communications on the subject of same sex marriage and 94% have been opposed to redefining marriage. "....shame you didnt bother to ask the other 120,000 people!!!

As a percentage its nothing to the size you represent, all this shows is the type of people who write to their MP, i wonder if the 300 write to him often about other issues such as child povery etc.....probably not! they will be 300 church nutters who agreed to write to their MP after being mithered to in church!!

Well Derek Twigg and the 300 still thinking its 1920......tough....t
he gays are coming...and their bringing wedding cake!!!
"Mr Twigg said: “I have received over 300 communications on the subject of same sex marriage and 94% have been opposed to redefining marriage. "....shame you didnt bother to ask the other 120,000 people!!! As a percentage its nothing to the size you represent, all this shows is the type of people who write to their MP, i wonder if the 300 write to him often about other issues such as child povery etc.....probably not! they will be 300 church nutters who agreed to write to their MP after being mithered to in church!! Well Derek Twigg and the 300 still thinking its 1920......tough....t he gays are coming...and their bringing wedding cake!!! chunkymunky
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2:16pm Sat 9 Feb 13

traceyingram93@hotmail.com says...

Dear Chunkymunky .. after the wedding cake which I have no doubt would be divine ... and things maybe (hopefully not ) arnt as rosy as maybe they once were... ... how do you then get a divorce ? I mean afterall anythings possible ...people fall out of love ..dont get support or dont nurture the relationship as maybe they once did ... does that mean you will have to commit adultery with the opposite sex so you can be granted a divorce?
As this Bill currently stands be honest Chunkymunky its flawed ... so - are you agreeing that child molestors, murderers, rapists, and the like can have a nice wedding in jail with wonderful cake and share a cell happily ever after ? Free condoms for every life sentance and wedding cake for everyone in jail ??
Its my opinion that a Bill as important as this one is .. should not be 'knee jerked' and out of respect if nothing else should be a Public Referendum Yes / No ... Cameron is after votes plain and simple ...

stop slating the MP's who voted against and ask why did so many 'sit on the fence' ...

The only socially conservative Opposition in Parliament is on Cameron's own backbenches.

A third of theTory votes against were cast by people like that, doing it for show. (or Cameron brown nosers)..

Whatever your views Chunkymunky (I like saying that for some reason)on gay marriage, the one thing this Bill 100% does not do is encompass equality. Its simply a square peg in a round hole and creates massive inequalities that don‘t exist (currently)

But I am very sure IF it gets thru the lawyers etc will be coining it in !

How can it be "equality" to have a civil partnerships for homosexuals, yet marriage ceremony for both heterosexuals and homosexuals, then have marriage in Churches and another outside church,part of marriage involving adultery, being a parent and consumating the marriage then another involving NONE of these, and then part of marriage for Christian teachers and another for no denomination ?

For the record I am a Methodist simply because it was the church closest to the pub for 'wetting the babies head' !
I believe that Marriage was created for Procreation purposes and thats it ...

But 'hey ho vicar' we are all entitled to our own opinion ... just as you are Chunkymunky and Its unnecessary and disrespectful in my opinion to call people nutters for going to church like you did :(

As the Bill stands I hope it dies in the arse at the 3rd Reading..

or divine intervention occurs in Westminster atleast till its ammended greatly or goes to a public referendum.

and there is nothing wrong with a nice piece of wedding cake :)
Dear Chunkymunky .. after the wedding cake which I have no doubt would be divine ... and things maybe (hopefully not ) arnt as rosy as maybe they once were... ... how do you then get a divorce ? I mean afterall anythings possible ...people fall out of love ..dont get support or dont nurture the relationship as maybe they once did ... does that mean you will have to commit adultery with the opposite sex so you can be granted a divorce? As this Bill currently stands be honest Chunkymunky its flawed ... so - are you agreeing that child molestors, murderers, rapists, and the like can have a nice wedding in jail with wonderful cake and share a cell happily ever after ? Free condoms for every life sentance and wedding cake for everyone in jail ?? Its my opinion that a Bill as important as this one is .. should not be 'knee jerked' and out of respect if nothing else should be a Public Referendum Yes / No ... Cameron is after votes plain and simple ... stop slating the MP's who voted against and ask why did so many 'sit on the fence' ... The only socially conservative Opposition in Parliament is on Cameron's own backbenches. A third of theTory votes against were cast by people like that, doing it for show. (or Cameron brown nosers).. Whatever your views Chunkymunky (I like saying that for some reason)on gay marriage, the one thing this Bill 100% does not do is encompass equality. Its simply a square peg in a round hole and creates massive inequalities that don‘t exist (currently) But I am very sure IF it gets thru the lawyers etc will be coining it in ! How can it be "equality" to have a civil partnerships for homosexuals, yet marriage ceremony for both heterosexuals and homosexuals, then have marriage in Churches and another outside church,part of marriage involving adultery, being a parent and consumating the marriage then another involving NONE of these, and then part of marriage for Christian teachers and another for no denomination ? For the record I am a Methodist simply because it was the church closest to the pub for 'wetting the babies head' ! I believe that Marriage was created for Procreation purposes and thats it ... But 'hey ho vicar' we are all entitled to our own opinion ... just as you are Chunkymunky and Its unnecessary and disrespectful in my opinion to call people nutters for going to church like you did :( As the Bill stands I hope it dies in the arse at the 3rd Reading.. or divine intervention occurs in Westminster atleast till its ammended greatly or goes to a public referendum. and there is nothing wrong with a nice piece of wedding cake :) traceyingram93@hotmail.com
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9:43pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Larkin 1907 says...

I believer Mr Twigg should be entitled to his view on the matter. Why should he be subjected to abuse because of his opinion than those who support what they imagine will be a marriage? Personally, as a Socialist, I find Mr Twigg's capitalist politics reprehensible, but he's entitled to them.
It's news to me that we are now a totalitarian state.
I notice Mr Twigg's name is one of those who appear on an internet 'List of Shame' for not voting for homosexual 'marriage'. I don't see that his voting against this Bill brings any shame on him.
I believer Mr Twigg should be entitled to his view on the matter. Why should he be subjected to abuse because of his opinion than those who support what they imagine will be a marriage? Personally, as a Socialist, I find Mr Twigg's capitalist politics reprehensible, but he's entitled to them. It's news to me that we are now a totalitarian state. I notice Mr Twigg's name is one of those who appear on an internet 'List of Shame' for not voting for homosexual 'marriage'. I don't see that his voting against this Bill brings any shame on him. Larkin 1907
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